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		<title>By: reemer.com</title>
		<link>http://offwing.com/2004/08/is-it-racist-to-boo-team-usa/comment-page-1#comment-12657</link>
		<dc:creator>reemer.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Disruption&lt;/strong&gt;

Eric over at Offwing has an interesting reply to Jason Whitlock&#039;s article that compares USA Basketball&#039;s recent performance with Team Canada&#039;s performance in the 1972 Summit Series. Read it if you have time....
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<p>Eric over at Offwing has an interesting reply to Jason Whitlock&#8217;s article that compares USA Basketball&#8217;s recent performance with Team Canada&#8217;s performance in the 1972 Summit Series. Read it if you have time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Beau</title>
		<link>http://offwing.com/2004/08/is-it-racist-to-boo-team-usa/comment-page-1#comment-12656</link>
		<dc:creator>Beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Skip -- Fair enough. Might have some logistical hurdles, but it&#039;s an interesting idea.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skip &#8212; Fair enough. Might have some logistical hurdles, but it&#8217;s an interesting idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Oliva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip Oliva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Beau, I recognize that I don&#039;t have an actual plan for getting rid of the national federations. As for nationalism, it would still exist in a decentralized games--the national federations for particular sports, i.e. USA Basketball, would still exist. My concern is getting rid of the national Olympic committees, which are nothing more than political intermediaries that have nothing to do with legitimate sport. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beau, I recognize that I don&#8217;t have an actual plan for getting rid of the national federations. As for nationalism, it would still exist in a decentralized games&#8211;the national federations for particular sports, i.e. USA Basketball, would still exist. My concern is getting rid of the national Olympic committees, which are nothing more than political intermediaries that have nothing to do with legitimate sport. </p>
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		<title>By: Beau</title>
		<link>http://offwing.com/2004/08/is-it-racist-to-boo-team-usa/comment-page-1#comment-12654</link>
		<dc:creator>Beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eric -- I think you&#039;ll be pleased with Iverson&#039;s comments if you read back through our coverage. He&#039;s proud to be part of this team, and he hasn&#039;t shirked away from a question. I&#039;m a little disappointed that Duncan hasn&#039;t been as forthcoming, but he also is proud to be part of this team, and I feel for him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think Whitlock has a bit of a point here, to tell you the truth, and I don&#039;t always feel that way about his work. These guys put their butts on the line when the rest of the league said no. Many of them have embraced all that&#039;s good about the Olympics -- Richard Jefferson has been seen at several other sports, Iverson is growing up before our eyes, etc. But they were not prepared to be here. Not like the softball team that spent all year playing any assortment of decent players they could find. Not like the soccer team that trained all year. Not like the water polo and volleyball teams, some of whom were even more disappointing. (Ahem ... U.S. women ... the Dominican Republic??!!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t see a bunch of spoiled NBA stars sleep-walking their way through the tournament. I saw, like Michael Wilbon said, a bunch of guys working hard. But they weren&#039;t ready. Blame the system, blame the coach, etc. Blame the players for never developing the jumpers and perimeter defense that would&#039;ve helped them succeed at this level.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the more I watched, the less I could pull against them. The stereotype of these players -- of which race was PART but not all -- didn&#039;t match what I saw from them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Skip -- I like your idea of decentralizing, and I think the Summer Games should be split into a core of classic sports and a couple of smaller satellite Games. But I don&#039;t see how the national federations will disappear. Even if you stripped away every national uniform, people will still cheer for whoever lives in their neighborhood, their state, their country, etc. Felix Sanchez, the latter-day Edwin Moses, had scant ties to the Dominican Republic before he decided to represent that country. The country embraced him anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8212; I think you&#8217;ll be pleased with Iverson&#8217;s comments if you read back through our coverage. He&#8217;s proud to be part of this team, and he hasn&#8217;t shirked away from a question. I&#8217;m a little disappointed that Duncan hasn&#8217;t been as forthcoming, but he also is proud to be part of this team, and I feel for him.</p>
<p>I think Whitlock has a bit of a point here, to tell you the truth, and I don&#8217;t always feel that way about his work. These guys put their butts on the line when the rest of the league said no. Many of them have embraced all that&#8217;s good about the Olympics &#8212; Richard Jefferson has been seen at several other sports, Iverson is growing up before our eyes, etc. But they were not prepared to be here. Not like the softball team that spent all year playing any assortment of decent players they could find. Not like the soccer team that trained all year. Not like the water polo and volleyball teams, some of whom were even more disappointing. (Ahem &#8230; U.S. women &#8230; the Dominican Republic??!!)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see a bunch of spoiled NBA stars sleep-walking their way through the tournament. I saw, like Michael Wilbon said, a bunch of guys working hard. But they weren&#8217;t ready. Blame the system, blame the coach, etc. Blame the players for never developing the jumpers and perimeter defense that would&#8217;ve helped them succeed at this level.</p>
<p>But the more I watched, the less I could pull against them. The stereotype of these players &#8212; of which race was PART but not all &#8212; didn&#8217;t match what I saw from them.</p>
<p>Skip &#8212; I like your idea of decentralizing, and I think the Summer Games should be split into a core of classic sports and a couple of smaller satellite Games. But I don&#8217;t see how the national federations will disappear. Even if you stripped away every national uniform, people will still cheer for whoever lives in their neighborhood, their state, their country, etc. Felix Sanchez, the latter-day Edwin Moses, had scant ties to the Dominican Republic before he decided to represent that country. The country embraced him anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Oliva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip Oliva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My vision for the Olympics would be to eliminate the IOC and national committees and have everything run by the individual sports federations on a decentralized basis--kind of an &quot;Articles of Confederation&quot; versus the current federalist Constitution. You could host the games over a two-week period in multiple cities using existing facilities, thereby negating the need to have one country pour billions of public dollars into one-shot venues. With television and the Internet, you no longer need everything in one location (especially when you have a dedicated, multiple-outlet broadcaster like NBC running the show.) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In effect, I&#039;m proposing we coordinate all of the various &quot;world championships&quot; held in the Olympic off-years into one &quot;Mardi Gras&quot; of random sports. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vision for the Olympics would be to eliminate the IOC and national committees and have everything run by the individual sports federations on a decentralized basis&#8211;kind of an &#8220;Articles of Confederation&#8221; versus the current federalist Constitution. You could host the games over a two-week period in multiple cities using existing facilities, thereby negating the need to have one country pour billions of public dollars into one-shot venues. With television and the Internet, you no longer need everything in one location (especially when you have a dedicated, multiple-outlet broadcaster like NBC running the show.) </p>
<p>In effect, I&#8217;m proposing we coordinate all of the various &#8220;world championships&#8221; held in the Olympic off-years into one &#8220;Mardi Gras&#8221; of random sports. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The individualist Olympics..?  I think I kinda like it..!  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In a sense, though, don&#039;t the world records in the individual events already transcend nationality?  The headline is: Tim Montgomery, an American, is World&#039;s Fastest Man.  As opposed to: Americans faster than other nationalities.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On second thought, maybe nationality is inextricably entwined.  I suddenly recall rooting for Lance Armstrong precisely for being a Texan-American beating the Europeans.  &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>In a sense, though, don&#8217;t the world records in the individual events already transcend nationality?  The headline is: Tim Montgomery, an American, is World&#8217;s Fastest Man.  As opposed to: Americans faster than other nationalities.  </p>
<p>On second thought, maybe nationality is inextricably entwined.  I suddenly recall rooting for Lance Armstrong precisely for being a Texan-American beating the Europeans.  </p>
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		<title>By: Skip Oliva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip Oliva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tom, to clafiy my argument above, I am only talking about the media&#039;s perceptions and coverage. I recognize that it&#039;s inherently foolish to try and ascribe a monolithic reaction to the public at-large. The majority of Americans are not watching the Olympic basketball tournament and thus are unlikely to weigh-in with any substantive opinions. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the criticism that the basketball team wasn&#039;t playing &quot;team&quot; ball, this goes more to what the real criticism should be: That USA Basketball failed in its job to assemble the best possible team. I would also question hiring Larry Brown as the coach; he is obviously qualified, but is his defense-based system the right approach for the international game? It&#039;s the philosophy of coaches like Brown that have brought the NBA to the level it is today. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now for Jim&#039;s comments: I don&#039;t disagree with anything he said, but his pitch is a little outside the contextual strike zone. The Olympics are expressly based on the premises of nationalism and statism. They require massive government interventions within the host nations and many of the participating countries. Every competition takes place in an express nationalist context. A true, individualist Olympics would eliminate national teams and olympic committees altogether. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, to clafiy my argument above, I am only talking about the media&#8217;s perceptions and coverage. I recognize that it&#8217;s inherently foolish to try and ascribe a monolithic reaction to the public at-large. The majority of Americans are not watching the Olympic basketball tournament and thus are unlikely to weigh-in with any substantive opinions. </p>
<p>As for the criticism that the basketball team wasn&#8217;t playing &#8220;team&#8221; ball, this goes more to what the real criticism should be: That USA Basketball failed in its job to assemble the best possible team. I would also question hiring Larry Brown as the coach; he is obviously qualified, but is his defense-based system the right approach for the international game? It&#8217;s the philosophy of coaches like Brown that have brought the NBA to the level it is today. </p>
<p>Now for Jim&#8217;s comments: I don&#8217;t disagree with anything he said, but his pitch is a little outside the contextual strike zone. The Olympics are expressly based on the premises of nationalism and statism. They require massive government interventions within the host nations and many of the participating countries. Every competition takes place in an express nationalist context. A true, individualist Olympics would eliminate national teams and olympic committees altogether. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As long as sports journalism is going to indulge the endless clich</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you point to the interesting parallels between the US in Basketball now and Canada in Hockey in 1972. I&#039;ve always thought that Canada&#039;s experience hockey closely mirrored the English experience in Soccer. When England was crushed by Hungary 6-3 at home in 1952(?) it produced the same soul searching as Canada losing at home 7-3 to the USSR in 1973.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you point to the interesting parallels between the US in Basketball now and Canada in Hockey in 1972. I&#8217;ve always thought that Canada&#8217;s experience hockey closely mirrored the English experience in Soccer. When England was crushed by Hungary 6-3 at home in 1952(?) it produced the same soul searching as Canada losing at home 7-3 to the USSR in 1973.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Outside of what the press might have to say that comes off as close to Skip states, I think it&#039;s kind of ridiculous to state that Americans being peeved at the play of the &quot;Dream Team&quot; up to this point as being racist is just off base.  While Eric is dead on to say that there is probably some segment of Americans who have racist tendencies and are basking in some delusional glory, the rest of us just feel that the team has been somewhat less than effective.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It doesn&#039;t take a brain surgeon to figure out that a bunch of shooters on a team just ain&#039;t going to cut it.  But up until the last game and a half that the team played, there was no real fire on the floor, IMHO.  People criticized the team for not playing &quot;team&quot; ball, which they hadn&#039;t been.  Sorry, Mr. Whitlock, but if we put a team of all white players on the floor, and they stunk up the joint, they&#039;d be hearing the same jeers from the crowd and the collective public.  &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside of what the press might have to say that comes off as close to Skip states, I think it&#8217;s kind of ridiculous to state that Americans being peeved at the play of the &#8220;Dream Team&#8221; up to this point as being racist is just off base.  While Eric is dead on to say that there is probably some segment of Americans who have racist tendencies and are basking in some delusional glory, the rest of us just feel that the team has been somewhat less than effective.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a brain surgeon to figure out that a bunch of shooters on a team just ain&#8217;t going to cut it.  But up until the last game and a half that the team played, there was no real fire on the floor, IMHO.  People criticized the team for not playing &#8220;team&#8221; ball, which they hadn&#8217;t been.  Sorry, Mr. Whitlock, but if we put a team of all white players on the floor, and they stunk up the joint, they&#8217;d be hearing the same jeers from the crowd and the collective public.  </p>
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