Here's the latest from NHL VP Bob Daly regarding today's negotiating session with the NHLPA:
"After rejecting our Compromise Proposal yesterday afternoon -- a proposal that envisioned opening the season utilizing the NHLPA's own proposed economic framework -- the Union asked that we remain in Toronto for further discussions. This morning, we convened at 11:00 a.m., joined by our respective outside counsel Bob Batterman and John McCambridge.
We met with the Union for a total of four hours, two-and-a-half of which was spent in caucus. The Union brought nothing new to the table, and they simply covered ground we had covered numerous times before. No new meetings are scheduled and, as far as we are concerned, none are expected. If there are no further developments, the League will make a formal announcement on the status of the season in the near future."
Later, in comments to reporters, Daly said:
"I don't know if I'd say I'm surprised, I'll go back to say that I'm disappointed," he said. "At the end of the day, I know we did everything we could do to forge an agreement.
"It was a pointless meeting today."
Kind of like the last eight months, don't you think?
I've been alerted to an NHLPA conference call at 5:45 p.m. U.S. EST, and I'll be listening in and live blogging. Stop back then.
UPDATE: And we're off, at 5:54 p.m. U.S. EST.
Ted Saskin is on the speakerphone.
No progress to report, no more meetings scheduled.
Reproposal of the triple-cap, covered up by the "triggers," which Saskin refers to as a "PR stunt." Says two of the triggers would more than likely go into effect immediately.
Provided information on an NHL revenue sharing plan -- clear from that discussion, that the league does not want a partnership. Revenue sharing is nominal, and it would reduce in a short amount of time. 10 or 11 teams would still lose money under a hard cap.
Clear after a few hours no progress was being made, and meetings adjourned. Gary Bettman informed the union he would be flying back to New York. Q&A session starts now.
Q&A BLOGGING: Please note, I'm paraphrasing here.
EJ Hradek of ESPN: How hard it is to go into partnership with the owners when the owners refuse to share revenue with one another:
All of the rhetoric of partnership needs to be taken in context -- league has never really proposed any meaningful partnership with the players. Odd that the way to start a partnership is with a lockout.
On further negotiations:
Unlikely.
Terry Frei of Denver Post: Any possibility of NHLPA picking up the phone and asking for another meeting.
Saskin: No. We've yet to find a negotiating partner . . . We fail to see at this late date that that's going to change.
Alan Hahn, Newsday:
Saskin: Teams need to take responsibility for their budgets.
Darren Rovell: What extent are you worried about the finances of the teams?
Saskin: Need to worry about the players, and they're taking an enormous hit . . . Tried to be very pro-active to avoid the situation we're now faced with . . . We think the league had a chance to be successful under the NHLPA's December 9th proposal . . . There will be consequences for everyone involved in the industry.
More to come . . .
Q&A CONTINUES Up next, Tony Gallagher, Vancouver Province: Is there enough pressure on the owners to negotiate through the Summer.
We can't forecast on how they'll approach it . . . Single-minded approach . . . No comment on possible legal action
Mark Everson, New York Post: What of Bettman's contention that negotiations will only get rougher one this season is cancelled.
Saskin: Completely unacceptable position, we fail to see how it can get much worse.
Stan Fischler, MSG Network: Why is a cap so bad?
Saskin: Cap not the only way to reduce player costs, NHLPA has suggested several . . . Incumbent on both parties to be flexible.
Scott Burnside, ESPN: Why didn't you attack the triggers yesterday.
Saskin: Bettman said he had no room to manuver, and that he hadn't gotten approval from the owners for what he even proposed . . . Triggers would immediately go into effect . . . That's no basis for an agreement . . . Simply repackaged what had been presented twice . . . NHL offered no leeway on renegotiating those points.
Followup -- willing to go to binding arbitration?
Saskin: Haven't given a lot of consideration . . . And the NHL has said they aren't interested . . . The NHL is only interested in a lockout and getting the players to accept something they would never negotiate . . . Not something that makes any sense.
More soon . . .
Alan Gretta from Bloomberg: Union's next step if season is cancelled.
Saskin: Brief pause, make contact with members, and a number of our members will be making plans for playing in Europe next year.
Question from Columbus Dispatch: Any doubt that forcing a labor impasse was a strategy from the beginning for the NHL?
Only interested in one solution, and they haven't changed. We were prepared to make a vareity of changes, including a system of revenue sharing . . . They've yet to make any moves, or compromise.
Terry Frei: Even Bettman gave compliment to players for principled stand. Can the union ever make up for this principled stand?
Saskin: Membership instructed us to negotiate a fair deal for both sides. Significant economic loss for everyone involved in the sport, but that's the result of the NHL's negotiating position all along . . . They've always controlled the timetable.
Rick Szadowski, Rocky Mountain News: Is the 24% salary rollback off the table?
Saskin: Anything is possible . . . May well happen at some point in time . . . Part of Decemeber 9th package that NHL wasn't interested in.
Helene Elliot, LA Times: Bob Goodenow has rep of waiting till the last second, is there another offer coming?
Saskin: No, nothing is coming . . . We made an extraordinary effort . . . Bettman came with a deadline yesterday, not the NHLPA.
Andy Bernstein, Sports Business Journal: Could the triggers been acceptable if they were different?
Saskin: Notion of flip-flopping from one system to another is gimmicky . . . We need to sit down and come up with a system that will endure for a number of years . . . It would create some uncertainty . . . Maybe if wasn't really a gimmick, but more of a trick . . . People lose perspective on what middle ground is . . . The NHLPA has been the party to offer most of the proposals to create a middle ground.
Mark Brender, The Hockey News: Is it a fair statement that the parties understand each other very well . . . And that leverage will rule the process from here on in?
Saskin: Not the way we've been approaching this . . . Been approaching it proactively . . . Looking to find leverage points and find them . . . We understand each other . . . We've certainly spent enough time with one another.
Another Columbus Dispatch Question: Was the last offer a slap in the face . . . Did they misjudge the players?
Saskin: The NHL is only interested in one way of doing it . . . If they thought this method of negotiating would work, they were wrong.
Followup: When do you suspect there will be NHL hockey again?
Saskin: I can't say.
CALL ENDS.
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Clearly the best part of these meetings are the fact they are meeting in my hometown of Niagara Falls, NY. What, was Utica unavailable?
Hopefully, when they agree that the cap number will be $45M and 3-5 years there will be a 10% escalator, the agreement will be come known as the Niagara Falls Cap Pact.
Then, besides the actual Falls and Indian gaming, we’ll have a third thing to be known for.
Well, there’s always Ed Delahanty falling off the International Bridge…